{"id":3498490,"date":"2023-10-09T09:17:23","date_gmt":"2023-10-09T09:17:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.resilience.org\/?page_id=3498490"},"modified":"2025-01-27T18:18:38","modified_gmt":"2025-01-27T18:18:38","slug":"holding-the-fire-podcast","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.resilience.org\/holding-the-fire-podcast\/","title":{"rendered":"Holding the Fire"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"gb-container gb-container-0c5b3045\"><div class=\"gb-inside-container\">\n<div class=\"gb-grid-wrapper gb-grid-wrapper-a8a1e07d\">\n<div class=\"gb-grid-column gb-grid-column-44d914bd\"><div class=\"gb-container gb-container-44d914bd\"><div class=\"gb-inside-container\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-style-default\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"413\" src=\"https:\/\/www.resilience.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/HtF-page-cover-image-1024x413.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3498488\" title=\"Vicki Robin Podcast\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.resilience.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/HtF-page-cover-image-1024x413.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.resilience.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/HtF-page-cover-image-600x242.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.resilience.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/HtF-page-cover-image-304x123.jpg 304w, https:\/\/www.resilience.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/HtF-page-cover-image-768x310.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.resilience.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/HtF-page-cover-image.jpg 1240w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<div class=\"gb-grid-column gb-grid-column-5e0cfdb5\"><div class=\"gb-container gb-container-5e0cfdb5\"><div class=\"gb-inside-container\">\n<p>Award-winning journalist and author Dahr Jamail hosts in-depth interviews with leaders from around the world to uncover Indigenous ways of reckoning with environmental and societal breakdown.<\/p>\n\n<p class=\"margin-bottom-0 has-small-font-size\"><strong>Holding the Fire<\/strong> is produced by <a href=\"https:\/\/postcarbon.org\/\">Post Carbon Institute<\/a> and hosted by Resilience.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"gb-container gb-container-5d4d3a45\">\n<div style=\"height:100px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-latest-episode\">Latest Episode<\/h2>\n\n<!-- cache: true --->\t<div id=\"wrb-feed-block_98b6a74fe477479177862a9a9ba37b8a\" class=\"wrb-feed\" data-cache=\"false\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"row\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"col-12 col-md-12\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"post-sidebyside\">\r\n\t<div class=\"row\">\r\n\t\t<div class=\"image col-12 col-sm-6\"><a class=\"zoom-image\" href=\"https:\/\/www.resilience.org\/stories\/2023-12-19\/holding-the-fire-episode-12-dilafruz-khonikboyeva\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"405\" src=\"https:\/\/www.resilience.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Holding-the-Fire_Dilafruz_Resilience-640x405.jpg\" class=\"attachment-feed size-feed wp-post-image\" alt=\"Episode 11\" \/><\/a><\/div>\r\n\t\t<div class=\"text col-12 col-sm-6\">\r\n\t\t\t<h3><a href=\"https:\/\/www.resilience.org\/stories\/2023-12-19\/holding-the-fire-episode-12-dilafruz-khonikboyeva\/\">Holding the Fire: Episode 12. The End of the World with Dilafruz Khonikboyeva<\/a><\/h3>\r\n\t\t\t<p class=\"author-byline font-sh2\"><a class=\"subtle-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.resilience.org\/resilience-author\/dahr-jamail\/\">Dahr Jamail<\/a>, Resilience.org<\/p>\r\n\t\t\t<div class=\"font-b2\"><p>Following another summer of record heat waves, droughts, floods, and wildfires across vast swaths of the planet, the injuries done to the planet by the Industrial Growth Society have never been so conclusive. As I grapple with collapse, I wanted to speak with Dilafruz Khonikboyeva, an Indigenous Pamiri from Tajikistan, who has lived through it and come out the other side.<\/p>\n<\/div>\r\n\t\t\t<p class=\"font-sh2 text-gray\">December 19, 2023<\/p>\r\n\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n<div style=\"height:33px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n<div class=\"gb-button-wrapper gb-button-wrapper-859612d6\">\n<a class=\"gb-button gb-button-3c544131 gb-button-text btn res-btn-blue\" href=\"https:\/\/link.chtbl.com\/holdingthefire\">Listen on your favorite app<\/a>\n\n<a class=\"gb-button gb-button-2324cebf gb-button-text\" href=\"\/holding-the-fire-podcast\/episodes\/\"><strong>See all episodes<\/strong><\/a>\n<\/div>\n\n<div style=\"height:100px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-new-here-listen-to-the-first-episode\">New here? Listen to the first episode.<\/h2>\n\n<div id=\"buzzsprout-player-13717602\">\u00a0<\/div>\r\n<p><script src=\"https:\/\/www.buzzsprout.com\/2248159\/13717602-indigenous-voices-around-the-world.js?container_id=buzzsprout-player-13717602&#038;player=small\" type=\"text\/javascript\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"512\" src=\"https:\/\/www.resilience.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Holding-the-Fire_map_1200px-1024x512.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3498487\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.resilience.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Holding-the-Fire_map_1200px-1024x512.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.resilience.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Holding-the-Fire_map_1200px-600x300.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.resilience.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Holding-the-Fire_map_1200px-304x152.jpg 304w, https:\/\/www.resilience.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Holding-the-Fire_map_1200px-768x384.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.resilience.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Holding-the-Fire_map_1200px.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n<div style=\"height:100px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-host\">Host<\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"gb-container gb-container-a7573999\">\n<div class=\"gb-grid-wrapper gb-grid-wrapper-80139106\">\n<div class=\"gb-grid-column gb-grid-column-02fc8710\"><div class=\"gb-container gb-container-02fc8710\"><div class=\"gb-inside-container\">\n<figure class=\"gb-block-image gb-block-image-2e9061f8\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"1050\" class=\"gb-image gb-image-2e9061f8\" src=\"https:\/\/www.resilience.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Dahr-Jamail_outdoors.jpeg\" alt=\"\" title=\"Dahr-Jamail_outdoors\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.resilience.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Dahr-Jamail_outdoors.jpeg 1400w, https:\/\/www.resilience.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Dahr-Jamail_outdoors-600x450.jpeg 600w, https:\/\/www.resilience.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Dahr-Jamail_outdoors-267x200.jpeg 267w, https:\/\/www.resilience.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Dahr-Jamail_outdoors-1024x768.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/www.resilience.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Dahr-Jamail_outdoors-768x576.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<div class=\"gb-grid-column gb-grid-column-f4746fb0\"><div class=\"gb-container gb-container-f4746fb0\"><div class=\"gb-inside-container\">\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.resilience.org\/resilience-author\/dahr-jamail\/\">Dahr Jamail<\/a> is the co-editor (with Stan Rushworth) of <em>We are the Middle of Forever: Indigenous Voices from Turtle Island on the Changing Earth<\/em> and author of<em> <\/em> <em>The End of Ice: Bearing Witness and Finding Meaning in the Path of Climate Disruption<\/em>. He has won the Martha Gellhorn Prize for Journalism and the Izzy Award. He lives in Alaska.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n<div style=\"height:66px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-credits\">Credits<\/h2>\n\n<p><em>Holding the Fire: Indigenous Voices on the Great Unraveling<\/em> is a project of <a href=\"https:\/\/postcarbon.org\">Post Carbon Institute<\/a>. Production and editing by Melody Allison, with additional support from Rob Dietz and Asher Miller. <\/p>\n\n<p>Music: &#8220;Hold that Spirit&#8221; by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rayezaragoza.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Raye Zaragoza<\/a>; transition music by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lylajune.com\/\">Lyla June <\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lylajune.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Johnston<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n<p>Art: Cover art by Prabha Mallya, created for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.currentconservation.org\/gendered-dimensions-of-aboriginal-australian-and-california-indian-fire-knowledge-retention-and-revival\/\">Current Conservation<\/a>, licensed under a <a href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-nc-sa\/4.0\/\">Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 License<\/a>. Artwork adapted to include text.<br><br>Thanks to the many friends who supported the development of <em>Holding the Fire<\/em>, including all those who provided counsel and introductions. Thanks, too, to the <a href=\"https:\/\/omega.ngo\/our-work\/ora\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Omega Resilience Awards<\/a> for providing a research grant to support the project. Most of all, our deep gratitude for our guests on the podcast and to their human and more-than-human kin.<\/p>\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-text-color has-alpha-channel-opacity has-background is-style-default\" style=\"background-color:#e5e5e5;color:#e5e5e5\"\/>\n\n<div class=\"gb-button-wrapper gb-button-wrapper-d978e0fb\">\n<a class=\"gb-button gb-button-09975d97 gb-button-text btn\" href=\"https:\/\/www.postcarbon.org\/contact\/\">Contact<\/a>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Latest Episode New here? 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